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Stairs Representation During Upgrade

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    In versions prior to Revit 2013, sub-categories for stairs are as follows:

    Stairs

    ∟Down Arrow

    ∟Down Text

    ∟Hidden Lines

    ∟Stairs Beyond Cut Line

    ∟Stringers

    ∟Stringers Beyond Cut Line

    ∟Up Arrow

    ∟Up Text

    However, in Revit 2013, sub-categories for stairs are totally different from the ones of 2012. They include:

     Stairs

    ∟<Above> Cut Marks

    ∟<Above> Nosing Lines

    ∟< Above > Outlines

    ∟< Above > Riser Lines

    ∟< Above > Supports

    ∟Cut Marks

    ∟Hidden Lines

    ∟Nosing Lines

    ∟Outlines

    ∟Riser Lines

    ∟Supports

    ∟Treads/Risers

    Stair paths

    ∟<Above>Up Arrows

    ∟Down Arrows

    ∟DOWN Text

    ∟Up Arrows

    ∟Up Text

    So, when upgrading customized Visibility/Graphics settings of pre-2013 stairs, what will happen?

    Revit 2013 provides automatic mapping between old and new sub-categories.  As a result, new categories and sub-categories will derive the settings from the old ones when opening old stairs in Revit 2013.

      New Sub-category Derive from Old Sub-category
    1 Stairs Stairs
    2 ∟ Cut Marks Stairs
    3 ∟ Hidden Lines Hidden Lines
    4 ∟ Nosing Line Stairs
    5 ∟ Outlines Stairs
    6 ∟ Rider Lines Stairs Beyond Cut Line
    7 ∟ Supports Stringers
    8 ∟ Treads/Risers Stairs
    9 ∟ <Above> Cut Marks Stairs Beyond Cut Line
    10 ∟<Above> Nosing Line Stairs Beyond Cut Line
    11 ∟<Above> Outlines Stairs Beyond Cut Line
    12 ∟<Above> Riser Lines Stairs Beyond Cut Line
    13 ∟<Above> Supports Stringers Beyond Cut Line
         
    1 Stair Paths Up Arrow
    2 ∟ <Above> Up Arrows Stairs Beyond Cut Line
    3 ∟ Down Arrows Down Arrow
    4 ∟ DOWN Text Down Text
    5 ∟Up Arrows Up Arrow
    7 ∟ Up Text Up Text

    On the other hand, which new sub-categories will the old ones map to?  That is, which new sub-category will control the visibility of old stairs sub-elements?

      Old Sub-category New Model Sub-category New Annotation Sub-category
    1 Stairs Stairs  
    2 Down Arrow   Down Arrows
    3 DOWN Text   DOWN Text
    4 Hidden Lines Hidden Lines  
    5 Stairs Beyond Cut Line <Above> Outlines  
    6 Stringers Supports  
    7 Stringers Beyond Cut Line <Above> Supports  
    8 Up Arrow   Up Arrows
    9 Up Text   Up Text

    So when upgrading old stairs file in r2013, basically there will be no change for the old stairs representation, and the new sub-categories will automatically derive the settings from old ones.

    But when we have a mixture of old and new stairs in one project, how can we customize them to the same representation?

    Let’s summarize the new sub-categories that control parts of both new and old stairs first.

      New Sub-category New Stairs Old Stairs
    Visibility Graphics Settings Visibility Graphics Settings
    1 Stairs Stairs, Stair path Monolithic Body Stairs Outlines / Nosing Lines below cut plane,  Cut Mark, Tread/Risers, Monolithic Body
    2 ∟ <Above> Cut Marks Cut Marks above cut plane Cut Marks above cut plane N/A N/A
    3 ∟ <Above> Nosing Lines Nosing Lines above cut plane Nosing Lines above cut plane N/A N/A
    4 ∟ <Above> Outlines Outlines Lines above cut plane Outlines Lines above cut plane Outlines / Nosing Lines above cut plane,  Outlines / Nosing Lines above cut plane, 
    5 ∟ <Above> Riser Lines Riser Lines above cut plane Riser Lines above cut plane N/A N/A
    6 ∟ <Above> Supports Supports above cut plane Supports above cut plane Supports/Stringers above cut plane Supports/Stringers above cut plane
    7 ∟ Cut Marks Cut Marks below cut plane Cut Marks below cut plane N/A N/A
    8 ∟ Hidden lines Hidden Lines below cut plane Hidden Lines below cut plane Hidden Lines Hidden Lines
    9 ∟ Nosing Lines Nosing Lines below cut plane Nosing Lines below cut plane N/A N/A
    10 ∟ Outlines Outlines below cut plane Outlines below cut plane N/A N/A
    11 ∟ Riser Lines Riser Lines below cut plane Riser Lines below cut plane N/A N/A
    12 ∟ Supports Supports below cut plane Supports below cut plane Supports/Stringers below cut plane Supports/Stringers below cut plane
    13 ∟ Treads/Risers Treads/Risers Treads/Risers N/A N/A
               
    1 Stair Paths Stair Path N/A N/A N/A
    2 ∟ <Above> Up Arrows Up Arrows above cut plane Up Arrows above cut plane N/A N/A
    3 ∟ Down Arrows Down Arrows Down Arrows Down Arrows Down Arrows
    4 ∟ DOWN Text Down Text N/A Down Text Down Text
    5 ∟ Up Arrows Up Arrows below cut plane Up Arrows below cut plane Up Arrows Up Arrows
    7 ∟ Up Text Up Text below cut plane N/A Up Text Up Text

    So from the description above, basically when the old stairs upgrade to Revit 2013 and mix with new stairs in the project, we just need to simply uncheck the visibility of <Above>Riser Lines and Riser Lines, then the representation for them will be almost exactly the same in all the views. There will only be some tiny differences with the supports edge appearance. Note that even the material assigned to the old stairs will automatically be derived to the new runs and landings. See the following examples.

    Stair type View Stairs by sketch in 2012 Stairs by components mix with upgrading stairs in 2013

    Monolithic stairs

    Level 1

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    Level 2

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    Section View

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    Assembled stairs with supports + tread + riser

    Level 1

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    Level 1_2

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    Level 2

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